See God’s Word for what It is and not what you think It is!!!

I am writing this article in response to a comment that I received from an anonymous reader. I respect the comments of others so I read and reread what others write seeking to understand their points of view, even if I do not agree with what is written. We are living in a time that is dominated by an incorrect way of thinking and what I mean by this statement is the idea of relativism. Whatever you believe is correct and if someone disagrees with you then his way of thinking is also correct. This deceitful way of thinking has even crept into the way that some people view the Bible. The Bible teaches that there is right and wrong and God is the One who determines what is right and what is wrong. If we as people want to learn what is right and wrong then we need to go to the source of what is right and wrong, the Word of God. Of course there are wicked people who do not care about right and wrong because they are more interested in promoting their agendas, their wicked lifestyles and they will go to any extreme to try and convince others of their positions. Some even try to use the Word of God, of course manipulating what is there, in order to divinely prove their point. When the Scriptures are studied in context with the guidance of the Holy Spirit then the very heart of God can be understood. If one comes to the Scriptures with a sincere desire to learn (not coming to the Scriptures with a mind already decided) then he or she will understand what is right and what is wrong. I will use some quotes from this anonymous reader in order to prove my point.

From what I can tell on your blog, you aren’t reading and interpreting the bible in any of the languages in which an of the original translations were done (there were 100s of translations before the contemporary ones to which you refer…each with its own spin and errors), which means you are relying on someone else to translate the meaning for you. So here is an equally (possibly more accurately) reliable interpretation”

First of all, the Word of God is perfect in every way.

Every word of God is tested; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him. Do not add to His words Or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar.” (Proverbs 30:5-6). “The words of the LORD are pure words; As silver tried in a furnace on the earth, refined seven times.” (Proverbs 12:6)

Not one single word in the Bible is wrong. I know that there are mistakes in the different translations but that is not because of the Bible that is because of the translators. One can understand the Scriptures in his own language without the help of the original languages but it does help to know the original Biblical languages (Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic). I do have knowledge of the original languages and the original languages only help confirm what the NASB (New American Standard Bible, a word for word literal translation of the original languages) version says. I will set several versions side by side including the original in order to see that the Bible is correct and the anonymous reader is obviously influenced by the homosexual agenda by trying to force the Bible to say what It does not say.

Do you translate and abide to ALL the laws of Leviticus regarding unclean times of the month, unclean meat, cloth etc? I suspect you are picking and choosing where you interpret “literally” and where you don’t.” One thing that one must keep in mind when reading and studying the Scriptures (notice I said reading and studying, not just listening to what someone else says about the Scriptures) is the fact that there is a certain historical context in which the people described in the text lived in. If you try to interpret verses from the Old Testament while having the mindset of the 21st Century then you will come across many difficult things to understand. For example 21st Century America our food preserving methods are much different than they were say 4,000 years ago when the Levitical laws were written (also try not to confuse food laws with moral laws because there is a difference). Much of the restricted food was food that usually rotted faster meaning that it would not preserve well and also animals like pigs and scale-less fish eat anything, including garbage and fecal matter. It only makes sense to avoid things that might make you sick since the health care of that time was not the same as our health care today. Pork is still considered a risky food to eat because of the damage it does to the body. Also sanitation during the time that the Levitical laws were written was not the same as it was today so being “clean” as the Bible says was very important. The “nations” other than Israel had some disgusting practices such as having sexual intercourse while a woman had her monthly period. God wanted to protect His people from this danger because of the high sanitation risks involved. Even today it is recommended to refrain from sexual activity if a woman is having her menstrual period and modern medicine can explain why. The list goes on and on but the point is, these laws were for the benefit of the people and when followed they brought protection. I am not picking and choosing what I want to believe. The anonymous reader has obviously been influenced by someone promoting the homosexual agenda, trying to make it seem as if the Levitical law on homosexuality is irrelevant when in fact the law is very relevant because it protects us from all kinds of physical diseases and mental psychological problems.

You speak a great deal about the issues surrounding sex. Which leads a reader to suspect you may be struggling with difficult issues surrounding sex. I know those things can be difficult. Good luck and I hope you enjoy and learn from the material below.” I do speak a great deal about sex but not because I have a problem with it. I know that sex was created by God to be enjoyed by a husband and his wife. I am married and I do enjoy the benefits of the sexual relationship with my wife. I have no shame or guilt because I know that it is a holy act given to us by God. The reason I write so much on the topic of sexuality is because of the evil people who try to promote illicit sexuality everywhere as if it were second nature to humans, like breathing is. When sex is perverted by evil people (for example those who promote the homosexual agenda) then it becomes a disgraceful act. I want to teach people the Truth about Sex, that it is created by God for a husband and his wife and that there is healing and reconciliation for those who have believed the lies of those evil people promoting illicit sex as something normal. I have a question for the anonymous reader, “Does it bother you that I present the Truth about Sex and if it does then why is that?” Those who promote propaganda do not want the Truth to be made known so they fight against it at any cost. Those who promote their propaganda through the homosexual agenda do not want any mention of the Truth about Sex to be heard. They scream tolerance but they themselves are the most intolerant when it comes to the Truth!!!

I will leave this as the introduction and come back the arguments against the accusations of the anonymous reader with another article. Until then I hope this will clear up some of the half truths that the anonymous readers has already shared. Understanding the cultural and historical context as well as the Biblical words will be the focus of the next article. By seeing all these things together the false accusations of the anonymous reader will be easily disproved. One last note, being wrong not the end of the world if you will admit that you are wrong and allow God to change you. That is the “good news” of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. God is ready to offer forgiveness of sins and a new life for those who turn away from their arrogant ideas and totally submit to the Truth found in God’s Word. Dear anonymous reader, that good news if for you too. God bless.

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16 comments on “See God’s Word for what It is and not what you think It is!!!

  1. Hi Erik!

    I feel I must point out that are not being completely honest with your readers when you say that you have no problem with sex. Over at another blog which I will abbreviate as DI, you mentioned several times that you struggled with sexuality in the past but that your faith helped you overcome it. That was interesting to me. I had a follow-up question for you but unfortunately our conversation got cut off, for various reasons. I was disappointed that my last question to you had to go unanswered.

    Would you be willing to continue our conversation here?

    Thanks,
    Mike

  2. How am I not being honest? I said I have no problem with sexual sin today (have is in the present tense). I did have a problem with sexual sin before I repented and accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior (being born again). There is a big difference between the two time frames.

    We can continue here but I will block all swearing so please use appropriate language (no offense to you, but DI is riddled with foul language).

    As to the question, I did answer it but unfortunately I was completely censored in what I wrote so I chose to leave the site. There is too much of a double standard (some can rant and rave about the problem with the Bible and go uncensored yet when another explains the Biblical text that was being misquoted he gets censored for preaching).

    You asked me if I had struggled with homosexuality and the answer is no, I have never been tempted to sin sexually in the area of homosexuality.

  3. I promise, no swearing!

    I didn’t say you weren’t honest. I said you weren’t being “completely” honest.

    The person you quote was trying to make a point that very often the thing we crusade the hardest against is the thing that we have the most difficulty with. It has been seen again and again in public figures who are against drugs or pornography and then turn out to have an addiction to the the very thing they crusaded against. I’m not saying that’s true of you, I’m just saying that I think your previous struggles were relevant in this post.

    My next question (the one that went unanswered at DI) is…What do you consider sexual sin? Besides homosexuality, of course.

  4. Here is the list on sexual sin (again it is taken from the Bible so it is not what I “think” or “feel” but what God says.

    The definition of sin is to miss the mark (God’s mark) so in order to know that you have missed it you must know what the mark is. That is why God displays the mark in His Word.

    Here is the definition of sex according to God

    Genesis 1:28
    God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth

    Genesis 2:24
    For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.

    As you see the sexual act takes place after the covenant of marriage is entered into (be joined or glued).

    The NT speaks on the same (both Jesus and the Apostle Paul, if he wrote to the Hebrews).

    Hebrews 13:4
    Marriage is to be held in honor among all, and the marriage bed is to be undefiled; for fornicators and adulterers God will judge.

    Fornicator is from the Greek word “pornos” which is where we get porn. It literally means any form of sexual activity outside the bonds of marriage (even mentally).

    Matthew 5:27-28
    “You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY’;
    but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

    Adultery falls under the category of fornication but with a twist, one of the persons involved in the sexual activity (or both) are married to other people not involved in the sexual act.

    In Leviticus 20 you find an interesting list of sexual sins that the Gentiles (pagans) were practicing.

    Adultery
    Incest in several forms
    Homosexuality
    Bestiality
    Porn (uncovering nakedness)
    Rape

    I can argue against masturbation by citing Jesus. How can you masturbate without lusting after a person? Also how can you practice Philippians 4:8 while masturbating?

    Philippians 4:8
    8 Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things.

    I hope that this is helpful. Always check the references in the Scriptures. Fornication covers the entire spectrum and then the Scriptures get more specific.

  5. I think the Phillipians quote has a loophole! One can masturbate by dwelling on something lovely! In fact, I think that would be a requirement! I’m just kidding with you. The bible isn’t against humor, is it?

    To get back to the matter at hand (no pun intended!) I do see from your bible excerpts that there are many facets of sexuality that are to be avoided or at least delayed until marriage. But what I find MORE interesting, and this gets back to the very beginnings of our conversation back on DI, is that you suggest that you may not agree with all of the stipulations of the bible, but that you follow them anyway because they are the word of God. What about oral sex between married persons? Is that prohibited?

    “…it is not what I “think” or “feel” but what God says.”

    I DO want to know what you FEEL is right or wrong, sexually. God gave you an intelligent mind and free will and yet I think you are reluctant to contradict the bible and tell me what you really think if it differs from the Word.

    Are there some things in the bible, sexual or otherwise, that you personally feel aren’t wrong but you avoid because it is the right thing to do as prescribed by God?

  6. Yeah, God does have a sense of humor (He puts 2 selfish people together in marriage and tells them to live for the other, they then produce selfish children whom they have to constantly teach not to be selfish, also ironic).

    I do not fear contradicting the Bible because it is impossible to do. I agree with all of the Bible and I am sorry if I wrote something that led you to believe otherwise.

    As far as sex in marriage goes, there are not really any restraints (as long as you do not degrade or harm your spouse). People try to add to and take away from what God has said. As you know silence is an answer. Husbands and wives are to respect each other and the sexual act is an act consecrated by God for both procreation and pleasure. Husbands and wives are to enjoy sex.

    For example, it is not wrong to eat pork (all food has been made clean) yet many choose not to eat it because of the negative effects that it has on health. Paul speaks to this subject. Paul is not against eating meat but if eating meat causes his Christian brother to stumble (fall into sin) then he will avoid meat.

    1 Corinthians 8:13
    13 Therefore, if food causes my brother to stumble, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause my brother to stumble.

    The same could be applied with a beer or glass of wine. The Bible does not strictly forbid it (alcohol) but does warn against its dangers. We are told not to get drunk though. If alcohol causes my brother to stumble then I will leave it alone. My relationships with people are more important than food or drink (non eternal things) because people have eternal value.

    I use my mind when studying the Scriptures so that I can understand them. I do not run to other people’s writings about the Bible, I dissect the Scriptures themselves.

  7. I get what you are saying but I still think you might be cherry picking with regard to sex outside of marriage and homosexuality.

    For instance, with regard to food you say, “…there is a certain historical context in which the people described in the text lived in. If you try to interpret verses from the Old Testament while having the mindset of the 21st Century then you will come across many difficult things to understand.” Meaning that some of the food restrictions that are in the bible are not 100% applicable to modern times. I understand that.

    And yet any edicts against sexual practices from the same historical context you regard as absolute. Why the difference? Might not times have changes sufficiently for some of those restrictions to no longer apply?

  8. I am glad that you are at least considering what the Bible says. Good communication and thinking things through never hurt any situation.

    I see where you could jump from one conclusion to the next (if it applies to food then it should apply to other areas). Here is the problem though, food and morality are two different subjects. Again I will use my old cliche, you are comparing apples to oranges. Moral laws will always remain no matter what century you are in. God has spoken, speaks, and will continue to speak against sexual sin in every form.

    Back to the food restrictions, just because our modern society has figured out how to manipulate food to keep it from spoiling as well as medical practices that does not change the fact that the unclean foods are not that good for you. I do not teach people what they should or should not eat because the Bible says that is a secondary issue (non-moral).

    Again, I appreciate your willingness to dialogue on this subject. I am glad that the tone of discussion has changed, it is quite pleasant.

  9. That makes sense. Morality is certainly of a higher order than hygiene.

    Yes, this has been very pleasant and informative. I don’t think we could have had this conversation over at DI because you were being attacked from all sides and I felt I was being lumped in with all the others who were being rude to you. I was glad to have found you here.

    However, I am disappointed that you were never able to bring yourself to answer my hypothetical “What if there was no God?” question. I usually ask some variation of that question when I feel the conversation needs to be pushed in a new direction. I rarely get a good answer to it, so don’t feel too bad.

    You may be interested to hear that I asked the reverse of the question to a couple of the members of DI who were diametrically opposed to your viewpoint. I am very “middle-ground” when it comes to this topic, a true agnostic you might say, and I was finding their “faith” in science unyielding. So I asked, “What if you found out tomorrow that there WAS a God?” I found it interesting that they too thought the question unanswerable. Inconceivable, really. One called it “absurd”. Maybe it is, but I still find that the answer or non-answer to the question can often reveal much about the person I am speaking to. That’s why I ask it.

    By the way, congratulations on Abigale! She is beautiful!

  10. Thanks for the comment about Abigail, we think she is beautiful too.

    I hate that you got lumped into the group at DI. I really prefer to communicate individually because there is less room for misinterpretation of arguments and statements.

    I appreciate your genuineness.

    I see your point in the question about not God not existing, and God existing. I would like to distinguish something in what you said. You ask me to think of God no longer existing tomorrow and I responded with the fact that it is like saying what if the oxygen is no longer here tomorrow. We also cease to exist and it does not matter. On the other hand, when asking the atheist about God’s existence being proven, you are adding to what they say is not there. One is taking away something vital and the other is adding what is not there (they claim). Using the oxygen analogy, you can add to the atmosphere and improve but if you take away then you destroy. I do not know if I am explaining my argument well. I understand it in my head but I do not know if it is coming out they way I see it in my mind. Let me know, I am open to discuss.

  11. Let me give some input; I am interested in what you have to say. The Bible was written in a time when things like homosexuality were unacceptable in the Israelite culture. The reason it was made taboo was because they had just freed themselves from slavery, and were looking to distinguish themselves from other Canaanite tribes. This is possibly also how the Kosher law came about. My point however, is that the Bible is up for a huge amount of interpretation because it was not God Himself who wrote it. The people who wrote the scriptures added in their own points of view.

    I understand that we are coming from completely different points of view. I am a liberal Christian who often questions her own religion and God’s intentions. But I would love to know your opinion and arguments on this matter. Thank you very much!

  12. Let me give you some advice and please do not take it the wrong way or try to turn around what I write.

    Denying the Scripture is the same as denying Jesus Christ and God. If you deny Jesus Christ then how can you be a Christian?

    Here is what the Scriptures say (pay attention and think logically before rejecting or denying).

    Romans 15:4 4 For whatever was written in earlier times was written for our instruction, so that through perseverance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope. (Paul is referring to the Scriptures of the OT here).

    2 Timothy 3:16 16 All Scripture is inspired by God (literally God breathed)

    2 Peter 1:20-21 20 But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, 21 for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. (this is reference to the Scripture Itself)

    Hebrews 1:1-2 God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

    John 1:1-2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God.
    John 1:14 14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    There is a lot of evidence here that makes your claim rather futile (please do not take that in the wrong way)

    Trace the phrase “the Word of the Lord” through the OT and you will see that it is all the Word of the Lord. It does not matter if you agree with it or not because Truth is Truth. You say that you like to question everything well the really do the research and you will see that the Bible is correct. Please do not be misled by what others say about the Bible. Study It for yourself.

  13. I have been with my partner – now husband – for 22 years. We are the parents of a beautiful two year old son, who came to us when he was 4 days old. We have built a life, a home and are now building a family together. Our extended family and large circle of friends loves and embraces both us and, now, our son. We were married in a Lutheran church, by an intelligent, deeply religious pastor. My question to you is this – quite simply – what would you have me do? What would you like to see happen with me, my husband, my son, my family, my home and my church? And please, don’t censor yourself. I want to know honestly what it is, exactly, that religious fundamentalists want from us.

  14. Thanks for reading and commenting. I will be glad to give you some advice and I pray that you will respect what I write and follow it. First of all, I will not tell you what I feel or believe. I will tell you what the Word of God says. You can call me a fundamentalist if you want but realize that God calls me His child, a Christian. You see God does not differentiate between liberal and conservative Christians, He says you are a Christian or not a Christian, you either accept the entire council of the Word of God or you do not. It is very cut and dry. Intelligent and deeply religious people can be dead wrong. In fact God does not really care much for religion because religion takes the focus off of Him and puts the focus on man. God likes those who accept Him, follow Him through His Word, and have a deeply committed relationship with Him. The Lutheran pastor needs to repent for supporting a lifestyle that brings destruction upon society. God has two categories of people: Those who practice homosexuality, those who support homosexuality, and those who are indifferent to homosexuality are all in the same group and have to pay the same price for their choice. Then there are those who stand up and fight against the sin of homosexuality (notice that we do not fight homosexuals but against their sin). God protects those who fight against the sin of homosexuality and fights with them (He hates sin and homosexuality is sin, He takes a firm stance against it, read His thoughts on homosexuality in His Word, read the Word and not someone’s interpretation of the Word).

    Now here is some advice on your situation. You have emphasized the fact that you are in a committed relationship with your partner. Most homosexual and lesbian relationships do not last at all. They are very short lived and very dangerous. You and your partner are the exception to the rule (but you know that we do not base judgments/discernments on the exception, they are based on the majority). The info/stats show that about 8% of homosexuals live in committed long term relationships. Now, I know that heterosexuals are not 100% committed and faithful, immorality is wrong both for heteros and homos so please do not excuse yourself with that argument.

    Also there dangers of homosexuality are scary (I am talking about risk of disease). With the lack of unfaithfulness combined with disease risk the homosexual lifestyle is a ticking time bomb. The median age for homosexual men is 42. Homosexuality and illegal IV drug use fall into the same category of dangerous lifestyles put out by the APA (American Psychological Association). If you want references please ask and I will give them to you.

    As far as children go, here is some stats on child abuse and molestation by homosexuals. In a 10 state study on child molestation 32% of the child molestation cases were committed by homosexuals (who make of 1 to 2% of the population). I know that the numbers are higher among heteros but they make up 98% of the population so the numbers just do not compare. Another study on child molestation found that the numbers showed 150 children molested per homosexual while 19.8 victims per heterosexual. Children are at high risk of being molested by homosexuals. I pray that you were not molested nor your partner was (odd are that you have had some sort of sexual abuse in your life if you choose to be homosexual). I also pray that you have never molested a child.

    Now here is the Biblical advice. First you need to realize that God is correct and you are wrong when it comes to homosexuality being a sin. You need to repent. Repentance means after understanding (that you are wrong and God is right) you have a change of mind that leads to a change in actions. You stop living the homosexual lifestyle (it is a choice) and start following God’s plan (either single and celibate or married to a woman). Your partner needs to follow the same steps. The children need to be raised by a mother and a father (the way that God intended, single parenting is not the answer). Get a Bible and begin to study It systematically (I would begin in the Gospel of John). There are tools for Bible study. The best method is the Inductive method (from the Latin inducere, to go into). You go into the text itself and not through the lens of another person’s perspective. Read the text and study it (observation, observe what is there, not what you think or feel is there). The next step is interpretation (what does the text mean, this comes after I see what is there). The next is application (How do I apply what I have learned). If you are really serious then I can help you. I had to learn how to study the Bible the same way before I became a Christian. I always thought that I knew what the Bible said until I actually began to dig into It.

    If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. I am a follower of Jesus Christ commanded to help people make peace with God and that is what I do. I can help, not because I know everything but because I know the source of knowledge and wisdom, the Word of God.

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