Present the facts about homosexuality and you get bombed with hatred

Okay, so here is how homosexuals and their friends respond to someone with whom they do not agree. This is to be expected, if you argue with the Devil, he sends out his “clan” after you. I am not against homosexuals, I am against the sin of homosexuality because it is very dangerous to society. I have explained why in an article and these are the responses to that explanation. I will edit the foul language. You make up your own mind.

You lying sack of . . . ! There is no homosexual agenda and even if there was lowering the age of consent wouldn’t be on that agenda, homosexuals are not trying to convert people’s children, there is no link between homosexuality and murder, and you probably don’t even have a cop friend in St. Louis. Every last thing you said here was a lie. And guess what? Even if your religion is against homosexuality, it’s FAR more against lying. After all, the commandment about homosexuality was among things like dietary restrictions and clothing laws whereas the commandment about lying was one of the ten commandments (supposedly) written in STONE by god himself. If your religion is correct then you’re buying yourself an express ticket to hell.

There is no proof that have told one single lie. All I did was share the facts about the homosexual agenda and what homosexuals are trying to do.

This is along the same lines as the last quote but I want to point out a contradiction.

Why is the homosexual movement/agenda pushing to lower the age of consent between men and boys, in the area of sexual relations?

Because there is no such movement, and homosexuals AREN’T trying to do such a thing?

Here is the contradiction, written by another pro homosexual person.

Yes, there are indeed some movements to lower the age of consent for homosexual relationships.

So you see, homosexuals do want to lower the age of consent. I did not lie.

Check out this next line of reasoning.

Most pedophiles are straights. (men with boys)

the majority of all child molesters ARE STRAIGHT (men with boys = homosexuality)

Gacy went after little boys but that would make him a pedophile rather than a homosexual.  (men with little boys = homosexuality)

To counter argue my argument, they claim that men who molest boys are straight. Doesn’t the Bible say that homosexuality is when a male lies with another male, like a male lies with a female? Man + boy (both males) = homosexuality.

Here is another classic, to counter argue homosexual serial killers, here is what they say:

There are a few notable homosexual serial killers such as Dahmer, Gacy and Berdella, but there are just as many heterosexual ones such as Ted Bundy, Ed Kemper and Robert Gates.

So, it is okay for homosexuals to be serial killers as long as heterosexuals do it too? What a great line of logic.

This is their response to pointing out the fact that homosexuals have to recruit new homosexuals to their movement because no one is born homosexual, there is no gay gene. There is a big push to teach homosexual subjects in public schools as well as promoting “gay days”. The homosexual movement is focused on the children in public schools but here is how the pro gay supporters respond. It is a great line of logic.

I can’t recall any time when gay people have ever come knocking on my door on a Saturday morning, handing me stupid pamphlets, and trying to convert me.

Here is another classic response. I do not hate gay people and I have never said that I do. Nevertheless, here is a regurgitated talking point.

Did you just cut and paste a string of standard “reasons to hate gays” from somewhere?

This is another classic. If you disagree with the homosexual lifestyle then you are automatically considered a closet homosexual. Really logical on their part.

How come you know so much about what homosexuals have a taste for? Is there something you want to tell us?
Your “friend” is just as bigoted as you are. Normal police officers probably know that pedophilia has nothing to do with a person’s adult sexuality.

Again, notice the name calling and claiming that a pedophile (usually male) who molests minors (usually male) is not a homosexual.

Another nugget of truth (with no evidence or proof of course):

You can’t be recruited into homosexuality, either you’re born that way or you’re not.
If homosexuals are sexual perverts, then so are heterosexuals. Almost everything that homosexuals can do, so can heterosexuals.

Would someone please show me the “gay” gene that all homosexuals are born with. Anyone? Please, I would love to see it. Did you notice the next line of logic? Since there are hetero sexual perverts then it makes homo sexual perverts okay. Really? I assumed that a pervert is a pervert and he/she is bad for society. You justify one pervert by bringing as an example, another pervert. Wow!!!

Here is another classic line of logic from the pro homosexual crowd.

Tell me whether or not you’ve stopped . . .  your mother with that cactus and I’ll address your straw man directly.

Wow, what a mature person, full of great wisdom to share with all mankind. Here is another favorite of mine.

Also, Brewer, go die in a fire. Twice.

Wow, never had a death threat before from the pro homo crowd.

I feel sorry for these people. They are what the Bible calls mockers and spiritually speaking, they are like little children who cannot distinguish between their right and left hands. The do not see the dangers of immorality even though there is ample proof of it. In fact the Bible speaks about the blatant ignorance.

3 knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. 4 They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5 For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, 6 and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. 7 But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

In verse 5 the phrase “they deliberately overlook this fact” translate to “they are dumb on purpose”. The good news of the Gospel is that God can change that ignorance. He is ready to renew a person’s mind if he/she will humble himself/herself, repent, turn away from sin and turn to God. That is my prayer for all who are enemies of God by living or promoting the homosexual agenda.

P.S.

This is added after some more attacks from the pro homo crowd. Here is the article that I have written that directly contradicts what this person claims about the APA.

Erik, you do realize that every major academic, scientific, and medical organization disagrees with pretty much everything you say about homosexuals, right? The American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, the list goes on and on…

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18 comments on “Present the facts about homosexuality and you get bombed with hatred

  1. I would encourage you to be open and get to know other people’s stories. Your arguments portray homosexuals as animalistic and invalidating of their humanity.

    Sexuality is a very intrinsic and vulnerable part of who a person is. In saying that you “hate homosexuality” you are inferring that you hate the homosexual as well. This eliminates the chance for a friendship to build where you would see that we all deal with the same struggles in life.

    Your opinions about some form of gay agenda have fallen victim to stereotypes. We do not have to recruit others. There have been studies that have shown slightly different developments between hetero and homosexuals. It is who we are. I can almost guarantee that at some point in any homosexuals life they have prayed and tried to be otherwise. I have and saying that I wasn’t praying hard or long enough diminishes the power of God.

    I encourage you to be open and dialogue with people. Get to know their stories and get to know them. Don’t argue and don’t use hateful language. That is not how we are called to act as children of God who are meant to bring His Kingdom to earth.

    • Homosexuals have rejected God and are given over to all kinds of gross immorality. I know ex-gays and they have the same story, how degrading the homosexual lifestyle was. I know current gays, and they degrade themselves in the homosexual lifestyle. It is a fact. I know that it hurts to see the facts but you need to see them and accept them because by doing that, you can be set free from the sin of homosexuality.

      18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
      19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.
      20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
      21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
      22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,
      23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
      24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.
      25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
      26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions ; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural *,
      27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
      28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge * God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,
      29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil ; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice ; they are gossips,
      30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
      31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful ;
      32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

      This is the list of what it means to be a homosexual:
      – ungodly
      – unrighteous
      – suppress the truth
      – they know God exists
      – they are without excuse
      – do not honor God
      – futile (useless) in their minds
      – foolish
      – in darkness (spiritually speaking, in sin and ignorance)
      – claim to be wise
      – actually are fools
      – worship the created instead of the Creator
      – given over to lust and impurity
      – dishonor themselves with their bodies
      – believe a lie instead of the truth
      – given over to degrading passions
      – exchange the natural for the unnatural
      – men with men committing indecent acts
      – woman with women committing indecent acts
      – receive the penalty of their actions in their bodies (std’s and other diseases)
      – depraved in their thinking
      – do things which are not proper
      – arrogant
      – boastful
      – haters of God
      – slanderers
      – inventors of evil
      – untrustworthy
      – unloving
      – they encourage others to join them

      What part of the above list can be discussed? It is pure evil. The good news is that homosexuals can be changed.

      9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God ? Do not be deceived ; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

      Hate the sin yet love the sinner. I can hate homosexuality (sin) yet love the sinner (the homosexual). The best way to show love is to help him/her be set free from the diabolical homosexual lifestyle.

  2. Way to omit most of the quote. Lies of omission are still lies…


    Yes, there are indeed some movements to lower the age of consent for homosexual relationships.

    That’s because there are many states/countries where the age of consent is higher for homosexual relationships than for heterosexual relationships. Say, a 17-year old boy could have a legal relationship with a 15-year old girl, but not with another 17-year old boy. Or it could be illegal for a 20-year old woman to have a relationship with a 16-year old girl, but 20-year old men could have that relationship legally.

    In other words, we want equal ages of consent. If you are capable of consenting to a heterosexual relationship, you are capable of consenting to a homosexual relationship.”

    • Thanks for reinforcing my point. Homosexuals want to lower the age of consent so that they can enjoy the young boys. This is nothing new. It was happening in Sodom during the days of Abraham and Lot.

      • If it reinforced your point, why was it omitted, hmmm? The post in question is clearly talking about the laws that make exceptions to the age of consent when young people are very close in age.

      • Sorry if I missed something. I obviously allowed you to post it in the comments so I am not avoiding anything. I can add it to the article if that will make you happy. I did have a lot of junk to sift through from you guys.

      • Can you honestly say that the spirit of the point intended by the full quote has the same effect as the excerpted quote in the context of your article?

        Why would you post the limited quote if not to distort the intention of the person who posted the quote in question?

  3. Eric, I’ve got a question for you.

    Are you sexually interested in underage girls?

    You said this:

    Again, notice the name calling and claiming that a pedophile (usually male) who molests minors (usually male) is not a homosexual.

    So, if a male that has sex with underage males is a “homosexual” and not a “pedophile”, then a man who has sex with underage females is a heterosexual, right? You’re a heterosexual. Can I imply from that you’re sexually interested in underage girls?

    Of course I can’t. It’s a ridiculous thought. I’m no more sexually interested in young girls than my gay friends are in young boys. I’m sure you’re the same. So why bring it up? Why do you think that being gay automatically = being a pedophile?

    However, I will say this: You spend inordinate amounts of time pointing out the motes in the eyes of others while ignoring the log in your own eye. I hope that, when and if judgment day does come, that you’re prepared to answer for that.

    Sin is sin is sin. Your sin is no better, or no worse, in the eyes of G-d than the sin of anyone else, even homosexuals.

    • What do you mean by interested? I have a 2 year old daughter and I am interested in her health, her future, her life in general.

      I am sexually interested in my wife (who is not underage). You can imply what you will but the fact is, I am not a sexual pervert (deviant) like pedophiles and homosexuals. Until there is actual proof, you can have all the implications that you want. There is proof that males have sexual relations with other males (underage and not). Pedophilia among men (male with male) is homosexuality as defined by God. I know that you hate to see that but it is the truth.

      I never said that every gay man is a pedophile. Every case of pedophilia involving 2 males is by definition a case of homosexuality.

      What is in my own eye. Please inform me. I would like to know.

      Sin is sin, I have repented of my sins, homosexuals on the other hand, have not, or they would no longer be homosexuals.

  4. I’d say you brought it on yourself. When you post such things which are basically a slur on people wrapped up prettily in ‘Christian concern’, people see through that and react accordingly.

  5. Here’s an excerpt from a Psychology Today article that explains why pedophiles and NEITHER heterosexual OR Homosexual.
    “Some research shows that for pedophiles, the gender of the child is immaterial. Accessibility is more the factor in who a pedophile abuses. This may explain the high incidence of children molested in church communities and fraternal organizations, where the pedophile may more easily have access to children. In these situations, an adult male is trusted by those around him, including children and their families. Males are often given access to boys to mentor, teach, coach and advise. Therefore, a male pedophile may have easier access to a male child. In trying to make sense of an adult male’s sexually abusing a male child, many of us mislabel it as an act of homosexuality, which it isn’t…To call child molestation of a boy by a man “homosexual” or of a girl by a man “heterosexual” is to misunderstand pedophilia. No true pedophile is attracted to adults, so neither homosexuality nor heterosexuality applies. “

    • Like to point out an abvious point that you jumped over here.

      Some research shows that for pedophiles

      “Some” means that it is not conclusive. What are the politics of the “some”? That is very misleading and does not disprove the fact that male with male is homosexuality no matter the age.

      One other point that I would like to make, NAMBLA, enough said.

      I did a little research on your source and am convinced even more that “some” means “only a handful of” and non scientists at that.

      • NAMBLA is in NO way associated with the LGBT community. LGBT organizations have been opposing NAMBLA ever since the first gay march on Washington in 1979. Almost all gay rights groups are opposed to the pedophile agenda of NAMBLA and similar organizations, and reject claims that homosexuality and gay rights can be seen as an analogy for pedophilia or the abolition of age-of-consent laws

      • Right, and there are no homosexuals in NAMBLA either, 🙂

        Homosexual groups want to lower the age of consent so please do not try that argument. Read the post that you are commenting on and you will see where I pointed this out using the very words of supporters of homosexuality.

      • And there’s no “Christians” in NAMBLA? And no women that support it? And no heterosexuals that want the same thing for young girls? I don’t see your point.

        Also, why is the fact that SOME homosexuals in NAMBLA good enough for you to mean that homosexuality is allied with NAMBLA. Yet “some” scientists with affirmative scientific evidence of biological homosexuality is totally different?

        Question: Would you reverse your views on homosexuality if it was based on a gene?

        Cause I get the feeling you wouldn’t. Which is why you try to bury all the evidence while claiming that you are merely trying to spread the “truth” about homosexuality. The one-sided truth that favors your side. Wouldn’t you lose quite a bit of face if it turned out to be biological? I believe so. Whatever shred of credibility you cling to would be ripped from your hands.

      • “And there’s no “Christians” in NAMBLA?”

        You are exactly right!!! In fact you could not be more correct. A Christian and immorality are like oil and water, they cannot mix.

        “And no women that support it?”

        I am sure that there are women who support it. People seem to support anything, especially when they are not correctly informed of its dangers (for example, many heterosexuals support homosexuality, as well as other forms of immorality).

        When a male has sexual relations with another male, no matter the age, then it is homosexuality and condemned by God. The fact that many homosexuals have a taste for boys is very real and very alarming. Many men who admit to having sex with minor boys also admit to having sex with adult men, i.e., they are not just pedophiles, they are homosexuals too.

        Would you reverse your views on homosexuality if it was based on a gene?

        When the gene is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt (like the fat gene), then we can talk. By the way, you do realize that sex is a choice. Gay men do not trip on the rug and end up having sex with each other. It is a choice that they make, like all immorality is.

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